Muay thai and brazilian jiu jitsu?
im 15 years old and a girl
and im really interested in joining classes and training
i love watching UFC fights!
im skinny but kinda strong, my guy friends say i hit like a man
lol i guess carrying groceries bags
for the family and moving boxes help!
im aggressive and im not afraid of getting hit or anything
and i like learning new things
here are some of my questions
and it would be awesome if you can answer all of them! 
im skinny, is that a problem? i kinda think so…
what’s the class for beginners like?
cause i really want to compete!
are there any sort of competitions for people my age, guys or girls, if we do compete?
is it hard to learn?
are the classes expensive?
im planning to go here:
http://www.yellowpages.com/info-LMS84063892/Selva-Brazilian-Jiu-Jitsu
http://www.selvabjj.com/Home_Page.html
the website is still under construction!
has anyone ever heard of this place?
Thank you for your help!
dont’t worry clowns
i will
i just want to see the answers first.
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There are advantages and disadvantages to both.
I try to avoid generalizations because there are schools on both sides but look at it this way.
Average Judo school trains 50/50 standing grappling/throws takedowns and matwork.
Average BJJ school trains about 80/20 matwork to takedowns.
So you average BJJ player has more experience on the ground, and some limited takedowns.
You average Judo player is a bit more well rounded of a grappler, but doesn’t spend the amount of time on mat that a BJJ player does.
In a head to head match up, the person who can control the takedown can control how it gets to the ground, meaning putting themselves in a dominant position. This favors Judo players because they have the matwork, know the defenses, and work on something BJJ doesn’t: Pins.
Both have the same amount of chokes and joint locks, with the use of the Gi. BJJ is like Judo in that it is actually pretty heavily Gi reliant as far as all the chokes. Most of the time a true BJJ player if he is on your back is going for lapel chokes instead of rear naked chokes. (If both are wearing Gis).
All in all one may have a move the other doesn’t have and vice versa, but total submissions they are pretty close to equel.
Judo by far has more takedowns and variations of throws then BJJ.
There is a checkered past of BJJ vs. Judo.
There are tons of great Judoka who have beaten great BJJ players.
The Kimura (in BJJ, Ude Garami in Judo) is named after the guy who pretty much busted up Helio Gracie left and right. However in fairness, Helio defeated a Judoka named Kato prior to facing Kimura. (Though Helio fought him twice, first time was a draw) in fact a lot of the BJJ vs Judo matches end in just that, draws.
Especially in regards to Gi based matches.
No Gi matches are pretty much dominated by BJJ players, mainly because there isn’t a lot of high level Judoka attempting to compete in No Gi currently, and only a few have really modified their style to fit well with No Gi.
I don’t really count MMA matches as huge wins for Judo guys unless they have won by submission over a BJJ player.
I think two equally matched guys (same weight, experience in the art) it could go either way, and most likely ends in a draw, depending on the rule set. Especially if the rule set says that a win is determined by submission, both guys have enough sub defense to make that a war of attrition or whomever makes the mistake.
Normally the match goes with either the Judoka taking the takedown and controlling and waiting, or the BJJ player jumping and pulling guard.
Judo guys work with the guard… however something needs to be noted.
THE GUARD IS NOT A DOMINANT POSITION. BJJ players don’t want to be there, Judo players don’t want to be there. The guard is defensive, it means you messed up and it gives you a chance to protect yourself. Are the submissions from the guard, absolutely. There are guys with great guard game who can rapid fire off submissions one after another… this is needed because submissions from the guard are the easiest to defend. The guard is a tool for you to try to get the fight to a dominant position,
It’s a neutral position in BJJ and Judo. Both arts also work on passing the guard and submissions from the guard. Judo doesn’t practice in the guard as much as BJJ, because BJJ works on the ground more than Judo players do. Judo players work transitions more, i.e. what happens from takedown to dominant position. BJJ players spend more time just starting off on the ground, with both people starting off on their knees, in this case someone is going to get dominant position at some point, so working from a neutral position against stronger guys is needed. They work to get into a neutral position from dominated positions as well. Spending more time on the mat means they work neutral mat positions more.
Judo tends to work a whole game, takedown to dominant position, or takedown to scramble for dominant position. Even their matwork while done in the same way in BJJ has a different edge to it. It isn’t uncommon to see two Judo guys on their knees fighting for grip and fighting for the takedown even from their knees. BJJ guys give up to the guard a little quicker, or would rather work in a scramble then try to force dominant position from the knees.
All in all they are both equal in my opinion each having a specialty or strength in the grappling world, each knowing enough of the others game to defend against it.
maybe can’t be said.
Judo will win every time with evenly matched players.
all a throw does is put a bjj guy where he wants to be. and jiu jitsu is with a gi on, i hope you understand that. they are similar but bjj is generally more current. bjj will generally have the advantage as both styles lead to the ground. and judo guys don’t beat bjj guys.
They are extremely similar. The Gracie’s stole most of the moves from Judo and tailored it to focus more on the ground and less throwing. Yes Judoka work from the guard etc. The advantage for the Judoka is obviously going to be with throws and take downs. The BJJ is usually going to have the advantage on the ground. It depends on the 2 fighters and not the style. They have judo guys with gracie ground games and shitty stand up and there are BJJ guys good in the stand up grappling but can’t do much on the ground. I’ve trained in both with BJJ coming much later and I didn’t find it very useful since I already knew the submissions and escapes. In american Judo they don’t train enough on the ground but one from japan would pose serious problems for BJJ practitioner. I had beaten many BJJ guys on the ground but more bc I chose to have my ground game ready for it. Alot of places don’t teach leg locks in Judo bc they aren’t allowed in competition so they will usually be susceptible to them.
Here is a hidehiko yoshida (judo) vs Royce Gracie (BJJ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vql9nuYgZ8s
Here is another Judo guy beating a BJJ
http://www.physical-exertion.com/martial-arts/judoblack-belt-vs-bjjblack-belt/
One of his students named Kazuhiro Nakamura defeated daniel gracie in pride FC mma. there is a long rivaled history between the 2. A properly trained judo player will defeat BJJ more often than not bc of great throws and a solid ground game where as BJJ is almost all ground game.